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Jude
02-28-2002, 01:25 PM
When the topic of prayer comes up and the question as to whether all prayers are answered, people commonly repeat the line: yes, all prayers are answered, but sometimes the answer is no. Sometimes they illustrate this belief with a story of a child who wishes and prays for a bike and some time later is asked: So? Was your prayer answered. And the child says, yes. So where's the bike? Oh, I didn't get it. The answer was no.

I read something which quoted the Baal Shem Tov, though I haven't seen it in the sefer, saying that this belief (the answer "no") is wrong, and that as soon as a prayer is uttered, Hashem answers in the positive.

Wait a minute, you're thinking. How can this be? The answer given is that we don't always get to see the gashmius realization of the "yes," but the answer is "yes" nonetheless, on some plane of existence. For some of us, that's as good as saying no! But apparently there's a difference between "no" and a "yes" we don't see.

Rashi in Ki Sisa 33:19 says, "At the time I will want to have mercy. Thus far, He only promised him (Moshe) that sometimes I will answer and sometimes I won't answer, but then later 34:10, He promised that the prayers will not chozros reikam (be turned away empty).

I read a moving article by the husband of a woman who died of cancer. He said that after his wife's illness and the harrowing experience they went through, he learned that "no matter what, prayers do not go unanswered. Sometimes the answer is positive in the way you asked for it, and sometimes the answer is positive in a way you didn't ask for it. But the answer is always positive."

He understood the positive answer to his asking Hashem to heal his wife to be yes, in a spiritual sense, and he said, "I was and am envious of the spiritual health that she attained. A few days before she passed away, she said that for the first time in her life, she truly felt that G-d loves her. She has always known it, but had never been able to fully feel it. Now she did... While her body was as sick as could be, her soul was healthier than anyone I had ever met. Even two days before her passing, she said she would not swap places with anyone."

He went on to say, "Why couldn't G-d heal her soul and body at the same time? It's a good question, but we cannot know all of G-d's ways, or we would be G-d Himself... But I do know that G-d healed her ... G-d answered when I called - just not in the way I asked for... We pray. He listens, considers, and decided how best to respond based on who we are and what we need. His answer is always positive."

Isn't this man's perspective just amazing?!

Yehudiya
02-28-2002, 01:33 PM
WoW I wish I had such faith.
I think - no - correction I know that G-D is there for me and for all of us its just really hard to acknowledge it.
Think of when you have a problem what do you do?
You take a siddur or a Tehillim and daven with all your heart and soul - dont you feel better after that even though you dont know wether what you want will be given to you or responded to?
I think that is part of G-d's response - that HE helps you feel better.

Jude
03-13-2002, 01:24 PM
You

by Jay Litvin

Who are You?

I mean exactly who are You? How big are You? Where do You reside?

Yes, yes, I already know. You are omnipresent and omnipotent. But that doesn't help me. That doesn't answer my question.

Who are You?
I mean, who are You when I pray to You?
How big are You; how much space do You fill up? Where do I find You? Where do I imagine You are when I offer You my prayers?

Yes, yes, I know You surround and permeate everything. I know You fill all space and encompass everything there is. I know You are formless and faceless. But I already told You: that doesn't help me. These have become abstract concepts, empty words, intellectual exercises.
And when I need You (and I do need You), I need to know who You are, where I can find You, the exact spot to which I can turn to offer You my prayers.
You.
Why am I asking? You ask.
Isn't this chutzpadik? You challenge.
I don't care. I need the answers.
In our continuing relationship, it's come to the point where I need to know.
Okay, let's be perfectly honest, here. I mean, let me be perfectly honest. You're always honest. At least that's what they say about You.
You. You have not answered all my prayers. Most importantly, You have not come through in some of the most important areas of my life.
Don't get me wrong. You haven't done so bad. There's lots of good happening in my life, and as a person who stays on the alert for miracles, I can see Your Hand in much if not all of the good transpiring in my life. So, I don't want to take that away from You. In fact, let me stop right here and say Thanks. Really, I mean it. Thanks. I'm very grateful.

But, there's some biggies hanging out there where I can't, but need to see Your Goodness. I need some tachlis - some up front mercy, kindness, salvation, what-have-you. And soon.

Yes, yes I know that You often act in hidden ways. I know that your Goodness, like You, is everywhere but often we can't see it.

At least that's what they say about You.
But, You'll forgive me (I hope): I want to see it. I want the goodness right here in my life, in the life of my family, and I want to see it and feel it and know that it is good. I want revealed goodness right at my own level.
Simply put, I want You to answer my prayers.
You.
And so, one night, lying in bed, in this frame of mind, I began to ask: Who are You? Who exactly am I praying to? Who is not answering my prayers? Sometimes, I pray and it's like you're sitting across the table from me. It's me and You. I'm asking. you're listening. I'm speaking, you're nodding but making no commitments. Yet I feel if I can be urgent enough, convincing enough, You'll answer my prayers. Maybe not right now. But soon. Tomorrow maybe, when I wake up. Maybe the next day. But soon.
Sometimes, I've closed my eyes and imagined a point inside my head and focus all my concentration and pray to this point. My attention is like the wide end of a cone, and I attempt to focus and compress all of who I am to the narrow point, where it seems I imagine You reside.
Are you there?
Really, it's not that I think that You are there, but rather that if I can concentrate my being into this point, with no distractions, my prayers will reach You better, and that You will listen more attentively because of the sincerity and purity of my thoughts.(They say that You are a jealous G-d, and so, I think, that if I offer you the pure wholeness of who I am with total concentration, You will like this better. At least that's what I think about what they say about You.)
But, still, though I don't think that you reside in this point, I have nonetheless reduced You to manageable size, to a point of focus, to an individual, isolated being existing somewhere out there, listening, affected by my concentration, my desperation, my desire, my passion.
Is this true?I didn't pray this way because of these reasons. Rather I discovered that I pray this way after I began asking: Who are You? Where do You live? How big are You? Where do I turn to find You?
You.
In the beginning I did not discover the answer to my question. Not right away, anyway. But I did learn how I pray. I discovered some unconscious assumptions behind my prayers. But, no, my question still remained. Who are You? It seems that in asking I learned more about myself than I learned about You.
You.
Blessed are You. (Or at least that's what they say.) King of the Universe.
This questioning went on for many nights. Instead of asking for what I want, instead of offering my thanks or my complaints, I simply continued to ask: Who are You? Where do You live? How big are you and how much space do You fill up?
I don't know what this was like for You. Did You miss my old prayers? Did You find me ludicrous? Or did You just stand in curiosity, wondering where this would lead, or waiting for me to return to my senses?
Sometimes I would just repeat the word You, over and over again.
You. You. You.
And sometimes, deep emotions would arise. Not always nice, but deep. Sometimes I would not even question who You were anymore, but simply call You: You! You! You! And sometimes I would just say: You. Blessed are You. And wonder what that means. And wonder how, why I could be blessing You when what I wanted was to be blessed by You.
Blessed are You, King of the Universe. (Or so they say.)Or should I say: Blessed is this point of concentration. Blessed is this Being across the table, the room, the bed, from me, listening.
Blessed You, Bless me. Please!
And suddenly, one night, don't ask me how or why, the point widened. You were not across the table, room, bed. It was not my concentration You sought. Nor my passion and desperation. Nor my pleas and complaints. Suddenly You were everywhere, too many places for me to reach at once, for me to contain. Suddenly I was the point of the cone and You the wide space whose width had no end (or so it seemed).
And in this awareness, hallucination, discovery, instead of focusing my thoughts with concentration and desperation, I spread my arms, for there was no place that You were not, and only by spreading my arms, offering myself as I twirled, slowly, round, slowly, from side to side, back and forth, could I hope to find You.Or so it seemed, or so it dreamed.

And I understood why trees have so many branches, and wished I had more arms to upraise and spread out. I understood why flowers have surrounding, soft petals reaching up and beyond in praise of You, and I wished for such ability to reach up and beyond, in and within, to find You, to praise You. To be a part of You.
You.
Blessed are You. King, who rules from law implanted within each living thing. For whom loyalty is the simple act of being one's deepest self in touch with the law that guides us and the world.
You.
Blessed are You Who is All things who are blessed each time I say, Blessed are You, creator of this tree. Blessed are You, creator of this fruit. Blessed are You who takes the slumber from my eyelids. Blessed are You who created and placed Himself within each creation forever to be found by those who search and, yes, question.
And in this moment, as my self and all its requests and needs, complaints and praises, dissolved in the vastness of who You are, I returned to lying on my bed, praying for my health and that of my family, for well being and peace of mind, for all things large and small. And I no less wanted my prayers to be answered than before.
But I saw, this night, that this was the answer to my prayers: To be a part of this All, to be one of this One. That the very act of prayer could be the answer to prayer. And that the only real question is: Who are You?

You.You.You.

Blessed are You.

ChachChach
03-13-2002, 03:39 PM
wow, that story is amazing. :)

i think part of the reason you feel better ater davening, is bc you've let another person know about your problems. and not just someone whos going to sympathetically nod their head, but hten do nothing-someone who has the power to take the burden from your shoulders and answer your prayers.

its hard to keep the fact that no prayer goes unanswered in mind when you think about the fact that we've been davening for the geulah all these years, yet the true and complete redemption hasnt fully happened.:(

yehudak
03-17-2002, 10:12 AM
To personalize that statement: "people commonly repeat the line: yes, all prayers are answered, but sometimes the answer is no", let me repeat it bshem omro -- R. Avigdor Miller, zy"a told a story of a man telling him that he prayed to Hashem, and that his prayers were unanswered. R. Miller told him that his prayers were answered -- the answer was no.

The statement that the answer was no is not, G-d forbid, a negative answer. Our problem is that we often don't even know what to ask for. We are like children who see baubles and demand them. B'daat tachton, the answer is negative. Clearly, b'daat elyon, there is no negativity -- Teva hatov l'hetiv.