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noahidelaws
08-29-2004, 08:34 AM
Is it permitted to enter a Reform Temple hall, or the hall of a church, if the hall is totally separate from the place of worship, and if the purpose of the gathering there is non-sectarian, but it's on the Temple or church grounds?

1) Is it considered a form of endorsement of heresy or avoda zara?

2) Is it perhaps ma'aris ayin that people can see you entering the complex, and they might think that you're going to the "sanctuary" or the church proper, ch"v?

I seem to recall that the voting in Crown Heights has taken place in the ******ian school on Brooklyn, and the Rabbonim reportedly ruled that voting there is permitted, but would the same apply in a hall adjacent to a church?

Would it make a difference if the hall is occasionally used for worship, but not on a regular basis?

Another concern is that one should distance oneself from idolatry or heresy in general, and this might be coming "too close for comfort."

Groisah Tzaddik
09-09-2004, 04:41 PM
I once got invited to a baby naming at a place that claims to "conserve" certain traditions ;) and I asked a shaila and I was told that it wasnt a problem that I should go to the celbration kiddush afterwards (on the premises but it wasnt in the place where they have services) But it was through the main entrance and anyone who saw from outside would think I was going to the shul itself.

Yankel Nosson
09-09-2004, 09:38 PM
Halacha l'maiseh on entering churches:

http://beverlyhillschabad.com/audio/halacha/shulchan-aruch/halacha-shulchan-idol-worship.ram (starting approx 12:20)
http://beverlyhillschabad.com/audio/halacha/shulchan-aruch/halacha-shulchan-idol-worship-b.ram

noahidelaws
09-13-2004, 04:17 AM
I found a Teshuva in Mishnah Halochos 6, p. 139 from Menashe Klein, who rules sharply against even entering adjacent halls, whether to vote or to play a game of ball, because sicnce it is attached to A"Z, "ha'nitpal le'osei aveira ke'osei aveira," and it is a mitzvah to distance oneself 4 amos from idols.

Yankel Nosson
09-13-2004, 09:51 AM
Is the church in question an RC church or one of the getchke-free types?

noahidelaws
09-15-2004, 12:08 AM
The church in the Mshneh Halachos' teshuva? And what's the difference anyway, ******ianity is idol-worship.