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SeeTheLight
06-06-2005, 12:21 PM
Summary:

Apparently, a famous Rabbi in Israel (Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu, former Chief Sephardic Rabbi of Israel) has two watches that indicate, based on the time they show, when Moshiach will come.

The details can be found at:

http://www.yiddishkeit.org/Default_YK.asp?

Click on "Israeli Rabbis Hint at a Miraculous Redemption!" on the left hand side and read the top comment titled "Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu, former Chief Sephardic Rabbi of Israel"

What do you guys think of this? According to my calculations, that means, assuming the watch movement is constant, that there are less than 20 days left.

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Yankel Nosson
06-06-2005, 02:49 PM
The whole inyan is that the movement of the watch is not constant! Kol hagiluyim l'asid lavo taluim b'maaseinu v'avodaseinu meshech zman hagolus.
דקה לפני שתים עשרה בשעון של הבבא סאלי

שאלה:
שלום כבוד הרב.
כבר שבועיים אני שומע מחסידים של חב"ד שכבוד הרב אביך שליט"א. קיבל מהרב בבא סאלי ז"ל ,כמה ימים לפני שהלך לעולם האמת, גלימה ושעון מיוחד.
אומרים החסידים שעל לפי השעון כבוד המקובל הרב מורדכי אליהו שליט"א אמר שמשיח צריך לבאו עד ל6 חודשים. אני רוצה לדעת מה אמת בכול הסיפור כי אני בטוח שסתם לא היו אומרים חסידים של חב"ד את הסיפור הזה.

תודה רבה.


תשובה:

בס"ד

הסיפור הוא נכון בעיקרו. ראיתי את הגלימה שהבבא סאלי הכין לעצמו לקבל בה פני משיח ולפני פטירתו הוא נתן אותה למור אבא שיאריך ימים כדי שהוא יקבל בה פני משיח.

אחר פטירתו שלח הבבא סאלי שעון שהוא אמור לבשר על הגאולה. ראיתי את שעון הזהב הזה שלפעמים הוא מתקתק ולפעמים הוא עומד.

עכשיו פורסם בעיתון משפחה בשם הרב שאמר שהשעון מראה כעת על "דקה לפני שתים עשרה" הוא הפסיק לתקתק ולהתקדם.

מיותר להסביר מה הדבר הזה אומר לנו, ומה צריכים לעשות ברגעים גדולים כאלה.

זה הסיפור בעיקרו.

בהצלחה


התשובה נענתה על ידי: הרב שמואל אליהו
ברכה והצלחה http://www.moriya.org.il/shut/indexid.asp?id=12201

SeeTheLight
06-06-2005, 03:25 PM
It's too bad that I can't understand Hebrew, so a translation would be really helpful here of the quoted text.

I presume the watches do not move backwards and the watch that is showing 11:45 is very close to 12:00. Even if the movement is non-constant, unless of course the watch slows down the closer it gets to 12:00, we are very very close to Moshiach's coming, according to the watch.

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Yankel Nosson
06-07-2005, 10:38 AM
About the watch (actually, two watches) which the Holy Baba Sali, ztzvk"l gave to Harav Mordechai Eliyahu, shlita (a question answered by his son, Harav Shmuel Eliyahu, shlita)

Question:
Not long ago I heard that [after he passed away] the Baba Sali, ztvk"l left a watch that doesn't work. I heard that at exactly 12:00 [on this watch] Moshiach will come, and that the time on the watch was then at 11:30 and that over the years the hands have moved and not long ago the watch came to 11:59, a minute before the coming of Moshiach. Is there a basis to this rumor?

Answer:
bs"d

Yes.

But there is much more to the story. I don't know if the watch was at the time you heard or what the time is today, but the Rav absolutely said "a minute to twelve".

But you should know that there are two watches, and I don't know why there are two, or what each one is for. But I saw with my own eyes the watch and I saw things occur around the watch that are beyond the natural.

So what does it all mean?

I didn't receive the watch, and only the one who received it knows how to explain what's going on with it.

In any event, I once asked my Rabbi and teacher, my father, shlita, and I received an answer:

"Krova yeshuati lavo" -- "My salvation is near to come".

This is part of the prophecy of Yeshayahu (Isaiah 56:1):

"So says the Lord, 'Keep justice and practice righteousness, for My salvation is near to come, and My benevolence to be revealed.'"

In other words, if you want the watch to move ahead -- do what is written in the verse!

Best regards,

Harav Shmuel Eliyahu, shlita (son of Harav Mordechai Eliyahu, shlita)


source: One Minute To Moshiach? (http://www.yiddishkeit.org/PageLaunch.asp?ItemCode=827)