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Rantalainen
05-29-2008, 08:38 PM
Why are so many verses such as "There is no son from Him", or its equivalent, so common in the Targumim, Aramaic Scriptures, including the Peshitta, but not in the Hebrew Tanach?
That statement, or its equivalent, that there is no son from HaShem, is in every Aramaic (of whatever dialect) Scripture.
לֵית בָּר מִנָּךְ
chabadtalk
05-29-2008, 09:25 PM
לֵית בָּר מִנָּךְthere is no one besides you....
Rantalainen
05-29-2008, 09:28 PM
בר also means "son".
chabadtalk
05-30-2008, 01:11 AM
also...
Gevurah
05-30-2008, 09:02 AM
Because that phrase is the Aramaic of "there is no other deity besides you"
It is not intended to be "son".
I checked the Classical traditional Jewish Literature by CD and this is not what our Tradition says....
that a word means two things can be seen if the the Targum gives two translations...
The targum would not translate a phrase with one intent into 2 alternative readings as this defeats its purpose.
Bittul
05-30-2008, 05:38 PM
This is definitely one of the most hilarious xtian missionary comments.
Rantalainen
06-01-2008, 01:12 PM
Exodus 20:2 of Onkelos has:
לא יהוי לך אלה אוחרן בר מיני
For Exodus 20:2, Jonathan and all of the other "Aramaic" Targumim have virtually the same as Onkelos.
Over and over again through all the various Aramaic Targumim of whatever source,
there is so often לא בר מיני (or its equivalent), with HaShem being the speaker.
Obviously לא בר מיני means that "There is no son from Me (HaShem)".
The REAL question is
WHY IS NOT THE HEBREW TANACH AS CLEAR AS ALL OF THE ARAMAIC BIBLES as to that there is no son from Him?
There are Arab Muslims (who are NEITHER against Jews NOR against Judaism) who are profoundly overjoyed and quite enthusiastic over the fact that there are Jewish Scriptures which state that there is no son from Him, the fact of which is the first step towards peace.
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